Email to Plasco Energy Group (a plasma gasification company) and their reply

Plasma Gasification (PG) offers a much safer alternative to incineration.  Waste is heated to over 5,000ºC, destroying all toxic chemicals and allowing heavy metals to be drained off.  PG produces no toxic waste either to air or land.  The only waste product is an inert glassy residue.  It also produces synthetic gas which is used to generate electricity. However in an article in the Courier on 10 November, Sita (the incineration company) claimed that PG used more electricity than it produced.  I wanted to hear the other side of the story, so I emailed Plasco - one of many PG companies - to hear their side of the story.  Here is the email I sent them, and their reply.

20.11.06

To:  Guy Leblanc, Plasco Energy Group

Dear Guy,

The struggle to persuade Perth & Kinross Council to refuse planning permission for an energy-to-waste incinerator goes on. In an article from the Dundee Courier on Friday 10 November 2006, Sita (the company that wants to build and operate the incinerator) made the following remarks about plasma gasification:

"This converts the waste into a gas, which still contains heavy metals, acid gases and particulate matter.  The gas is cleaned before being used to generate electricity in a gas engine. The process is a net consumer of electricity, not a producer, and it produces a solid residue from the gas cleaning system."

I would very much appreciate your comments on these claims.

Also, I have three questions for you:

1.  What are the comparative costs of incineration and plasma gasification?  One advocate of plasma gasification has claimed that the net cost of PG is £21-£30 per ton, compared with £63 per ton for running an incinerator, plus the costs of long-term health damage in the surrounding area caused by particulate emissions. 

2.  What particulate emissions, if any, are produced by PG? Your FAQs simply say "Our waste conversion process produces no harmful air emissions" - but can you confirm that there are no PM2.5 particles or other nasty stuff?

3.  Finally, if Perth & Kinross Council were to consider plasma gasification as a possible alternative, what sort of financial transaction would be required to interest your company in providing and running the necessary facility (bearing in mind that local authorities in Scotland are always strapped for cash)?

Many thanks,

Michael Gallagher

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23.11.06

Dear Mr. Gallagher

Thank you for your continued interest in our gasification process.

I have asked Guy to permit me to respond to your e-mail

Gasification is a term used broadly by both the public and industry. There are also many different forms/processes that are called gasification. Sita may very well be correct in their statement about the gas produced from certain gasification processes. They are however incorrect in using that statement in regards to our synthetic gas. The proof is in the pudding as the saying goes. Our gas is used in a reciprocating engine to produce electricity. We use Jenbacher engines and the manufacture GE guarantees the electricity output. GE would not offer any such guarantee and the engines would not be able to produce power if the Sita statements were true. The gas must be clean to operate in an engine. This is the very point that differentiates Plasco Gasification Process from "gasification". Most gasification technologies run the gas through steam boilers to generate power. Only the Plasco syngas can meet the consistent quality, temperature, pressure, heating value, required to meet the specifications needed for a reciprocating engine.

The Plasco Gasification Process is not a net consumer of power due to the ability to use our quality synthetic gas in an engine. Our patented process is designed on efficient use of energy to transform a waste feedstock into a quality gas. Our process uses approximately 20% of the energy produced in the process. For each tonne of waste we produce net saleable power of 1.15Kwh when using reciprocating engines and 1.4Mwh per tonne when we employ combined cycle. The very best incinerators today can get 600kwh from each tonne of waste. Ask Sita how much power they can produce for sale from each tonne of waste.

The solid residue created from the gas cleaning process is approximately 300 grams of heavy metals and particulate matter for each tonne of waste processed. If no batteries etc. were improperly disposed of by the public this number would be lower. Ask Sita how much ash they have for disposal at a controlled landfill.

Now on your specific questions

1. This is not an answer we provide. The reason is we build, own, operate our plants. Therefore operating cost is not an issue for municipalities. We negotiate a long term contract for taking the waste at a fee which is lower than alternative solutions. We take all financial and environmental responsibility. There are no down stream health risks. The only emissions to atmosphere come from the engines making electricity. The emissions are well below EU regulation. The emissions are below that produced by an automobile.

2. Please see on our web site the following table of emissions for our process.  http://www.plascoenergygroup.com/documents/Plasco%20Emissions%20for%20Ottawa.pdf

3. We would be very interested. We require a long term waste contract. Can you tell me the volume of waste that would be available? We require a minimum of 68,000 tonnes per year for a commercial sized plant. Perth & Kinross do not need to finance this facility. Assistance with land so the plant goes where it is acceptable to the community, access to the power grid, a 20 year contract for the waste is what we are looking for.

Mr. Gallagher if the Council would be prepared to receive a presentation from us, and if the waste volume is available we would be pleased to meet with them. Thank you for taking an interest.

Sincerely,

Randy Bennett

VP Business Development

Plasco Energy Group

 

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